With no under seat storage. The food drink and service was very good. The internet was a complete waste of money. The internet service was slow or non-existent could not even send text messages on Facebook. This was the front row of seats in first class up against the bulkhead. It seemed to me to be a bit roomier and having a seat in front of me.
It was a good flight from Dallas to Chicago on 18th March A extremely uncomfortable seat for first class. It was an oversized economy seat. You must bring your own device which is fine unless there is no wifi. Since our entire flight was over water there was no wifi available. I was not aware wifi was not available over water. I had no movies downloaded on my iPad thankfully I had books. I paid extra for this seat!! Im a short guy, 5'7", and I cant put my legs straight, nor a book beside me.
American Air should be ashamed of themselves. Fusilage wall angle reduces shoulder room by 2" making seat uncomfortable. Extra legroom seat and all seats are narrow. No TV on seat back but there are TVs on ceiling every 5 rows or so.
Bring your own ipad. Avoid american when possible cause seats are so tight and legroom is about 1" less than Delta. This was JFK-Phx. Very poor seat with less legroom, due to bulkhead location, than a regular economy seat. Should have looked here first.
I always choose a window seat. My fault but was highly irritated. I am not a fan of these seats that don't recline, they sort of rock back. I think the cushions are hard and uncomfortable for anything more than an hour, but admittedly I have little cushioning of my own. The IFE screen is quite large and the two windows are aligned. Good seat overall. This was the worst airline seat and the most discomfort I have ever had on a plane.
I am 5'8" and lbs, and was assigned this middle seat that has immovable arms. I didn't think I could squeeze into it, but I did--barely. I had very little arm room and sat with my arms crossed most of the time, so I wouldn't hit the people next to me.. If my flight had not been only an hour and 10 minutes, I would have had to try and switch seats or take a different flight.
All the overhead space was taken in the area, so I had to take my carry on to the middle of the plane. It was awful and I will never fly a with American again. While the seats are older, this means that reclining slides the seat forward while reclining you back. Although it is the bulkhead, this recline feature allows you to stretch out farther without feeling discomfort.
Row 10 is to be avoided. It is the first regular coach seat behind the Main Cabin Extra seats in Row 9. They have a greater recline than Row 10, which means that there is almost no room left when they do recline. It was literally the most squished I have ever been on a plane.
I am very small, as is my daughter 5'4" and lbs and both of us were in agony. They keep tightening seats -- at some point, mayhem will break out! I was actually impressed! Despite the reviews saying how old the plane was, I loved the seats! They were brand new but had no TVs like the other version of this plane. The only issue I had was that the wifi was painfully slow.
Gogo seems to hate me with a burning passion every time I use it. Save your "Main Cabin Extra" money for something more worthwhile. Unless you're nice and skinny I'm 5' 11", pounds , these seats are ridiculously narrow.
And 7A, being against the fuselage seems even more narrow. I had no room for my left arm and my shoulder was hitting the fuselage. Thank God my wife was sitting in the middle seat so I could use some of that space, otherwise I would've spent the flight with my arms between my legs. Legroom is OK, but the bulkhead will keep you from stretching them if you're over about 5' 7". I'm just glad my flight was only about 2 hours. Any longer would've been torture. Seat 9F is supposed to be Main Cabin Extra, but it certainly didn't feel like there was any more leg room than standard coach.
I feel ripped off and will complain to the airline. I'm pretty big, at 6' and lbs. But this seat with the tray table in the armrest was to narrow for me and was extremely uncomfortable. This was the smallest seat I have ever sat in on a commercial airplane. There was in-seat entertainment but it was useless since it was about 8" away from my face.
I am 5'7" and my knees were touching the seat back in front of me which was fully reclined for the whole flight. Only a very small bag fit underneath the seat because of the electronics boxes. The seat pocket is now just a small mesh sleeve about the size of one iPad. The window was misaligned and very low can't look out without bending way down, which I couldn't do because the seat in front of me was too close.
I ordered a drink but had to hold it in my hand because the half-tray wouldn't even go down since it was so close to me. Terrible seat. I am not sure why you would pay extra for this seat. There is no additional leg room or width.
Also, this flight from sfo to mia os configuration 2 for the This row has a middle seat. Dont pay extra, there is nothing different about this row. I have flow on two variations of the One older one without the sky interior and the latest and greatest one. I feel that the older the aircraft is the better the legroom is since its generous on the ones without IFE. Not so much the ones with IFE since I had issues trying to get my bag fully under the seat and the legroom was rather tight even in Main Cabin Extra.
The notion of newer being better is not always true in this case. I'll stick with having a flight with decent legroom. Row 10 on this aircraft seems to be particularly tight, not just 10A. This seat has an outlet right where my left knee should be.
Neither of us are happy! This plane did have seatback entertainment. Consequently, my carryon which fits under the seats of the regional jets! Even though I have gold status, all the bins were full back to row 21! So, plan accordingly Leg room was fantastic. This plane is great, the seats are great but are not the best looking.
Power between seats did not work. Radio worked fine but was a little slow. Horrible cramped seat. I am 6 feet tall and could not get knees in front of me. Next time fly Jet Blue. This seat was comfortable for me. I was able to stretch my leg under the seat in front of me. Seat lines up with seam of bulkhead panel, not providing much elbow room.
You'd better have a small tush to squeeze into this seat. The width is unconscionably narrow in the seat with the moveable armrest, but this seat is more narrow than that. I'll surely be Sponge Bob Squarepants by the time we land. Nice legroom, of course. There is a break in the bulkhead that allows seats 7C and 7D to stretch legs under the last row of seats in first class.
There is also no restricted overhead storage at row 7; the overheads here span row 6 in first class and row 7.
This main cabin extra product is ridiculous. Seat pitch is nothing but economy! I just remebered why i don't fly this airline. This seat has the wall protruding into the seat. This limits shoulder room and is uncomfortable. Not only does it not have a window it is actually convex- protrudes out from wall. If you are slightly claustrophobic at all don't sit here! If 9a reclines his seat, you cannot even bend over to get your bag from underneath 9a.
You better know 10b real well because your going to be rubbing shoulders with them. For a "main cabin extra" seat, this is not worth it. The window seat is closer to the wall of the cabin which creates a more narrow seat area. For the entire flight, my right shoulder was pressed against the wall and my left shoulder was pressed against the gentleman in the middle seat.
I'm 5'8" at lbs and he was about the same height and about I've never had so little lateral room, on any flight. These seats do fully recline last row of first class. Seat is narrow as tray folds into the armrest but, as my pet peeve on airlines is legroom, 14F had ample legroom and I was even able to put my backpack under the seat in front of me some airlines don't allow this on exit seats.
Don't pay extra for these seats. They are marked as main cabin extra but because they are bulkhead, the seat width is not like the others. Additionally the seat built is some strange, very thick device. Unlike some of the featured reviews ans this seat map, my seat does recline in the back of first. Comfy, plenty of room. My favorite part about any non-bulkhead in first is that most ipad covers can slide in there, you can hang it from that and watch movies while eating a meal or having drinks!
Seat is the worse. On the aircraft that have been outfitted with the new seats with IFE screens included, the issue is not leg room. The top of the seat where the screen is bends out toward your face I dropped something on the floor and had by face pressed against the screen on the seat in front of me, and still could not reach the ground. Flew from Seattle to Boston via Chicago, and found the seats to be perfectly comfortable.
The food was good, and there were lots of services from warm nuts to a meal. There was no entertainment, which was a bit disappointing, however I brought my own. Compared to the Delta I flew on recently, this was an unpleasant experience.
Seats need to be updated for sure. American's wi-fi provides no flight data aside from the time until arrival which was not very accurate. There is no complimentary entertainment available to watch over wi-fi, American only has free movies and tv shows on seatback IFE units, which are not on this aircraft.
Maybe I'm used to the wide body jets but this was one of the most horribly uncomfortable flights I've ever experienced. Especially great if you want to sleep. The seats are rigid as iron slabs. Never again. I like the misaligned window. It's easy to lean against the wall to sleep but you can still look out.
The most legroom I've ever had. I could completely stretch out and I'm 6 ft tall. It wasn't any colder against the exit door. Too far from the drop down video screens to really watch anything. AC power at my seat is a real plus. This is in reference to the V1 with the newer Sky interior. Seat 10F has a window, just a little bit in front of your shoulder. Also, I am not tall, 5'6", but the seat sits kind of high, so you have to bend your neck down a little to see.
This is in reference to the V1 without the newer Sky interior. Seat 12F has a window, but it is at your shoulder, which is good because your shoulder can lean in a little more against the wall. But, if you want to look out easy, it is not so great, as you have to turn your head quite a bit to see well.
Also, I am nt tall, 5'6", but the seat sits kind of high, so you have to bend your neck down a little to see. Seat 12A has a window, but it is at your shoulder, which is good because your shoulder can lean in a little more against the wall. This was the most uncomfortable seat I have ever had. Paid extra for the leg room of exit row but seat was so narrow and upright that I arrived in Phoenix with leg and back pain.
I'm on the shorter side so the leg room was quite nice and there were TV screens on the back of each seat with a large amount of choices for free. The leather seats were comfortable and a lot more cushiony than the older plane. Beware 10 A is not a window seat! The wall is several inches thicker forcing an average size person to wedge their shoulders between the wall and the person sitting in the middle.
This is worse than the middle seat in the last row. Avoid this seat at all cost if you are on a long flight! Worst "first class" seat I've ever sat in. Are the reclines, no way to sleep in this without being a contortionist. Fly something on Alaska airlines or JetBlue or Virgin America, at least they seem to care about passenger comfort. The seat is low and hard. Since the tray is in the armrest, it is too narrow for a larger than average person.
Seat 6A, B do not recline. This is not relfected on the website for either version of this aircraft. Still pretty comfy. First class woohoo! Worst seat ever. Either it's the design of the seat itself, or all the padding was worn out.
I can usaully sit anywhere without problems, but this seat was torture. Very little padding in the exit row window seat. My movement felt very restricted. The seat positioning in this aircraft deviates from prior seating design practices which left a gap between the interior body of the plane and seats in order to allow window passengers the ability to comfortably put their shoulder over the armrest. In this aircraft seats are pushed up against the interior of the plane body and as a result your shoulder hits the plane interior before you can comfortably center your arm over the armrest.
My guess is seats have been shifted by almost 3 inches to the exterior of the plane. I'm not sure what this changed gained but I became acutely aware of what it took away. Due to the cylindrical shape of the plane body taller passengers will have less usable space.
As a result I think all window seats in this aircraft should be coded yellow. Comfortable first class seat. Recline is not impacted by the bulkhead behind. The seat slides foreward when reclining. Power is available in the seat front. This exit row gives excellent leg room but the problem is the seat width is significantly reduced.
I am not a big persob womens size 8 or 10 and both sides of my hips are pushed against the immovable arm rest walls. Also very limited underseat storage. I have been flying for 40 years and this was one of the worst seats ever. Window divider juts into arm rest. Bulkhead on is not really "Main Cabin Extra" with respect to legroom.
Actually less legroom than traditional Main Cabin. Staff were great, but very unimpressed with plane. First class had no individual entertainment system. Should be standard. All pics showed it. Very good legroom, but unable to recline because of the exit behind. Seat is also very narrow. I was booked on an MD80 but the aircraft was changed to this Without doubt 10A is the worst seat I have ever been in - it is horrible.
Why is there no window? Why would Boeing design a window seat with no window and more to the point why would an airline buy it! It is so claustrophobic.
Also I agree with a previous comment it is very narrow. I love Boeing but the AA is a shame. MC Extra seats are a joke. I would hate to have to sit in Main Cabin based on this.
Only a short, 3 hour, flight and I can't imagine being transcontinental on this plane. Luckily there were some other seats that were open I moved from the center seat to another row. We returned on an A and it was sooooo much better.
This seat does have good longitudinal leg room, but the curvature of the aircraft limits foot space slightly, side-to-side.
On descent, the AC unit has condensation that leaks through the emergency exit release handle cover, and drips on one's arm. Attendants said it's endemic to the line. For a tall person I'm 6'4" the window is too low to enjoy, making B and C the better seats. I actually didn't get a drink until I was in my seat for 1. I hate to be whiny, but I didn't think 1st class passengers needed to bring their own beverages aboard. Seat was comfortable. But no leg rest, no individual TV, food offering was warm stale nuts, and a chocolate chip cookie.
Definitely avoid this version of if you can, I was upgraded w miles, but had I paid big bucks for this seat I would have been bummed. Horrible flight due to the plane being so old that it felt like it was going to fall apart on take off and landing. We had no weather to deal with at all, but the plane honestly felt like it was being twisted like a plastic toy. People were screaming out of terror as we landed.
Beware the claims by American of their "new" planes, because you'll just get stuck on these and be hating it. The seats are fabric and have no entertainment options. This was my first experience with American Airlines, and I was very disappointed by the experience. First, the seat belt was attached wrong so that it would tie around once. Second, the power outlet was located below the armset, which made it very hard to charge my laptop.
Several times I had to crouch down and reconnect my charger. The good thing was that they seated my family in a Preferred Seat. After the flight, I realized that my seat was reserved for AAdvantage members. However, it was my family's first flight on American Airlines. Overall, the experience was "Poor". Next time, I would rather use another airline. In addition to the narrower seat due to the table being in the armrest, the seatbelt also contained an airbag which also diminished the width of the seat.
AA considers this seat a premium seat because of the extra legroom at the bulkhead. The power outlets are located below the seat cushions in the standard Economy seats. In this position, they are nearly impossible to use. You have to be a contortionist and use a flashlight to find the outlet for your seat, because there is so little space between you and the previous row to maneuver and it's dark down there. To add insult to injury, after a managed to get plugged in, it failed to charge my iPhone.
The Investigation attributed the conflict primarily to controller use of non-standard phraseology and the absence of unobstructed runway visibility from the TWR. Control of the was lost and it crashed, killing all occupants. The Legacy's crew kept control and successfully diverted to the nearest suitable airport.
The Investigation found that ATC had not instructed the Legacy to descend to FL when the flight plan indicated this and soon afterwards, its crew had inadvertently switched off their transponder. After the consequent disappearance of altitude from all radar displays, ATC assumed but did not confirm the aircraft had descended. Concluding that intervention was not necessary despite the activation of loss of separation alerts, the controller allowed the to continue, issuing a landing clearance whilst the F was still on the runway.
Sixteen seconds later, the touched down three seconds after the F had become airborne. B vicinity Canberra Australia On 9 May , the crew of a Boeing found that rotation during take off required significantly more back pressure on the control column than would be expected. It was found that a party of 87 primary school children all seated together at the rear of the cabin had been checked in as adults so that the aircraft had been up to 5 tonnes lighter and with a significantly different trim requirement than the certified and accepted loadsheet stated.
The error was attributed to the inadequate group check arrangements of the airline involved. B, Alicante Spain, On 27 March , a Ryanair Boeing was mis-handled during take off and a minor tailstrike occurred.
The crew were slow to respond and continued an uninterrupted climb to FL before deciding to return to land and beginning the corresponding QRH drill. When the cabin pressurisation outflow valve was fully opened at FL, the cabin depressurised almost instantly and the crew temporarily donned oxygen masks. The Investigation noted the absence of any caution on the altitude at which the QRH drill should be used but also noted clear guidance that the procedure should be actioned without delay.
B, Alicante Spain, On 7 June , a Boeing operated by a non-Spanish speaking crew was given takeoff clearance at Alicante after the same supervised student controller had previously cleared two vehicles to begin a full-length opposite-direction runway inspection in Spanish. The controller error was only recognised when the vehicles were able to transmit that they were still on the runway, the aircraft crew being unaware of the conflict until then was told to reject the takeoff.
The maximum speed reached by the aircraft was 88 knots and minimum separation between the aircraft and the closest vehicle was never less than metres. B, Auckland New Zealand, On 7 June , stabiliser trim control cable, pulley and drum damage were discovered on a Boeing undergoing scheduled maintenance at Auckland. The Investigation found the damage to have been due to a rag which was found trapped in the forward cable drum windings and concluded that the integrity of the system which provided for stabiliser trim system manual control by pilots had been compromised over an extended period.
The rag was traced to a specific Australian maintenance facility which was run by the Operator's parent company and which was the only user of the particular type of rag.
B, Barcelona Spain, On 12 December , whilst a Boeing was beginning disembarkation of passengers via an air bridge which had just been attached on arrival at Barcelona, the bridge malfunctioned, raising the aircraft nose gear approximately 2 metres off the ground.
The door attached to the bridge then failed and the aircraft dropped abruptly. Prompt cabin crew intervention prevented all but two minor injuries. The Investigation found that the occurrence had been made possible by the failure to recognise new functional risks created by a programme of partial renovation being carried out on the air bridges at the Terminal involved.
B, Belfast International UK, On 21 July , a Boeing taking off from Belfast was only airborne near the runway end of the runway and then only climbed at a very shallow angle until additional thrust was eventually added. Although inadequate acceleration had been detected before V1, the crew did not intervene. It was noted that neither the installed FMC software nor the EFBs in use were conducive to detection of the data input error.
B, Christchurch New Zealand, On 11 May , a Boeing crew making a night landing at Christchurch had to react quickly when braking action deteriorated and only just succeeded in preventing an overrun. The Investigation found that a damp rather than wet runway had been assumed despite recent rain and that the aircraft operator had recently changed their procedures so that a damp runway should be considered as dry rather than wet for runway performance purposes.
The questionable determination of the crew that the runway was likely to be damp, not wet, was attributed to a relatively high workload prior to final approach. B, Darwin Australia, On 6 December , a Boeing approaching Darwin at night in the vicinity of thunderstorm activity suddenly encountered very heavy rain just before landing which degraded previously good visual reference.
After drifting right of centreline just before and after touchdown, the right main gear left the runway for metres before regaining. The landing and taxi-in was subsequently completed.
The Investigation attributed the excursion to difficulty in discerning lateral drift during the landing flare to an abnormally wide runway with no centreline lighting in poor night visibility and noted similar previous outcomes had been consistently associated with this context. B, Delhi India, On 5 January , a Boeing operating a domestic flight into Dehli diverted to Jaipur due to destination visibility being below approach minima but had to break off the approach there when the aircraft ahead was "substantially damaged" during landing, blocking the only runway.
There was just enough fuel to return to Dehli as a MAYDAY flight and successfully land below applicable minima and with minimal fuel remaining. The Investigation found that a different alternate with better weather conditions would have been more appropriate and that the aircraft operator had failed to provide sufficient ground-based support to the flight.
B, Djalaluddin Indonesia, On 6 August , a Boeing encountered cows ahead on the runway after landing normally in daylight following an uneventful approach and was unable to avoid colliding with them at high speed and as a result departed the runway to the left. Parts of the airport perimeter fencing were found to have been either missing or inadequately maintained for a significant period prior to the accident despite the existence of an airport bird and animal hazard management plan.
Corrective action was taken following the accident. That said, the Project Oasis armrests are much smaller — giving you a little more hip space but not really serving much of a purposes as armrests. After learning about the differences, you probably have a preference about which aircraft type you want to get.
However, the two aircraft are nearly identical when booking flights, checking in for flights and viewing the flights in the AA app. The aircraft type is listed as Boeing , abbreviated to on the website. As AA has now completed its satellite-based Wi-Fi retrofit and all aircraft, all of the s should now have high-speed ViaSat connections. However, the two arrangements are currently showing different Wi-Fi indicators.
Project Oasis flights have rows in first class where LAA aircraft are numbered Flying the two aircraft arrangements in close succession provided a poignant example of the direction American Airlines is going with its domestic fleet. Instead, American Airlines is removing seats with inflight entertainment screens and fairly-new bathrooms from its fairly-new Boeing aircraft and installing 12 more economy seats with less pitch, no IFE screens and smaller bathrooms.
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JT Genter. An economy lavatory on an American Airlines Project Oasis Less Pitch and Smaller Seat Padding You may remember the firestorm that American Airlines set off when it shared plans to install seats with just 29 inches of pitch. Back row of the Project Oasis economy cabin. First class on Project Oasis First class seats in a Legacy American Airlines Sign up for our daily newsletter.
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